Tuesday, May 1, 2012

Smutty Book Club Review: 50 Shades of Grey.


Well. We wanted to revive the Smutty Book Club, and in doing so, believed the hype swirling around 50 Shades of Grey, by E L James. We plan on posting our opinions side by side with your comments, but wanted to see what you thought of the book first. The questions posted below are a guideline for your opinions and comments, which we are sure you have many. Feel free to number your responses and add on with additional thoughts in your comments below.

SBC Discussion Questions:
  1. Before we assume everyone hated this book, did any of you A) Not mind it, or B) Feel a desire to read the second and third installments in this series? Why or why not?
  2. Were you able to identify with Anastasia's personality/character? Why or why not?
  3. Did you find Anastasia's backstory realistic, i.e., a twenty-something woman who had never had lustful feelings or sexual experience with another man?
  4. What did you think about Ana's frequent referrals to her subconscious and "inner goddess"?
  5. Hypothetically speaking, if a real-life Christian Grey (or Christina Grey for you lady lovers) wanted to seduce you, would you be down for it, BDSM and all?
  6. Although this book claims to have BDSM throughout, most of the sex doesn't center around it at all. Do you think the writer missed the mark on correctly identifying this group of fetishes, or did she simply water it down for bigger mass appeal?
  7. Do you think Ana's quick backtalk and argumentative nature helped the writer's attempt at making Ana a strong, autonomous heroine, or did it make her seem bratty to you?
  8. How do you feel the story would have changed if Christian and his family weren't so fabulously wealthy? Would readers have accepted his fetishes as readily?
  9. Why do you think this book is so popular, especially amongst the suburban mom demographic?
  10. If you had to sum up this book in one word or phrase, what would it be?
Can't wait to see what ya'll think.

Love,

Naurnie & Jemina

27 comments:

  1. If you haven't seen this Ellen Clip do watch.

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  2. 1. I will most likely not read the 2nd or 3rd books, as I could barely stomach the first one. Word on the street is that they're considering Alexander Skaarsgard for the movie, though, and I wouldn't mind that AT ALL.

    2. I didn't know it was Twilight fan fiction before getting the book, and in hindsight realized I could no more relate to Ana's uber self-conscious personality than Bella's. They both just came across as weak and whiny to me.

    3. What twenty-something (non-Mormon or other strict religion) girl has never fooled around with themselves or others? Ridiculous.

    4. I barely plodded through the story until I got to the sex scenes, hoping they would be steamy. Oh, but wait - Ana's "inner goddess" was always doing some trite dance move or hiding behind the couch. WTF.

    5. I'd be up for a little freaky naughty stuff with a hot Christian Grey, but don't expect to get me trussed up like some piece of meat in a butcher shop. Nothankyou.

    6. I'm not a member of the BDSM community, but I'm pretty sure they're wishing this author would crawl back into a hole. There seems to be a whole lotta things wrong with her depiction of this group of fetishes.

    7. Ana is a moron, in my opinion.

    8. I think wealth always makes people more willing to accept fault, whether it be poor plot lines, terrible writing, or a male character that would never make sense from a psychological standpoint.

    9. Bottom Line: it sold copies. Putting this on the best-seller list gave outwardly-seeming chaste housewives carte blanche to go out and buy smut they've secretly been streaming on the internet for years.

    10. 50 Shades of Shit

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  3. 1. The book was ok. Nothing special. And the only reason I would even consider reading the second and third installments would be to find out what the hell happened. I *hate* it when authors end books on notes like that.

    2. No. Well, I take that back. I guess I *might* be able to identify with her confusion, but that's it. I second Maria's thought that she's weak and whiny. All she really needed to do was make a decision, and she couldn't, until he pretty much beat her. And even then, there are 2 more installments, so I'm guessing she crapped out on that decision, too.

    3. Absolutely not. I find the lack of experience somewhat believable, but not the lustful feelings bit. I mean, REALLY.

    4. There were way, way too many. And I wanted to smack her "inner goddess."

    5. I would probably try it for, like, one night. Who knows? Some light bondage could be fun. But I have a really hard time imagining being a full-on submissive like they talk about. I am just not that girl. At all.

    6. Honestly, this was my first encounter (so to speak) with BDSM-type stuff, so I can't say whether she glossed over it or if it was watered down. I think if it seems like she did, it was because that wasn't the main point of the book. I think it boils down to her focusing more on Christian's history and why Anastasia wants to know about it and/or try to fix him. And I don't really like that he had these "singular tastes" because of his past - that almost gives the impression that anyone who has a fetish was abused in some way.

    7. I don't think it made her sound bratty, but it didn't make her appear strong, either. When I was reading it, I thought of it more as her reacting to being "so confused" about her seemingly monumental decision. It was kind of childish, really. Especially when she was jealous.

    8. I think his wealth really, really helped make the fetishes easier to handle (please note: it took all my willpower to not say "easier to swallow" - bahahahahahahaha). His wealth made him appear to be more responsible ("I'm in charge of so many people..." blah blah blah) and his philanthropic endeavors (made possible by his wealth) paint him to be an upstanding citizen. What's a few beatings with a belt when he's feeding the children?!

    9. I have no idea. Case in point: every now and then, I go to a "girls' night"-type thing with a friend and all of her friends, and they're quite a religious group. One of the women is reading it. She'd heard it was popular, but was having a rough time getting through it ("too intense"). It makes me wonder how it got so popular with so many straight-laced, suburban mom-types. The writing is crap (example: using "besieged" TWICE in two sequential sentences), and the story is lacking. I swear, there must be some media company who buys millions of shitty books and music just to get them onto the bestsellers lists, because there's no other explanation for crap like this being so popular.

    10. 50 Shades of OHMYGOD JUST MAKE A DECISION.

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  4. I'm on page 158 of 514 and I would use the one word of CRAP to sum this book up. I will finish the damn thing so I will be able to answer the other questions truthfully.

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  5. @Kathleen - great comments! I totally agree with your viewpoint on the way BDSM stuff was portrayed. I'm no expert, but I'd venture a guess that people are none too pleased with the author for a variety of reasons.

    @Rob - I can't wait to hear a guy's viewpoint on this book. Keep reading!

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  6. I'm probably doing this book club all wrong but I have to get these thoughts out now. I'm about half way finished.
    1) 3 personalities, really? isn't that a bit much?
    2) took her awhile to have a problem with fisting. I don't think that is something a person passes by without comment the first time around.
    3) college girls don't run in sweatpants
    4) college girls don't have a landline in their apartment in 2011.
    5) college girls have an email address in 2011
    6) No one gets apple products early, even young billionaires.
    7) 1.5 terabyte in a laptop, sorry, no
    8) pigtails? really? what college girl wears pigtails on any day that is not Halloween?
    9) gloriously yummy? who talks this way?
    10) down there? who talks this way, in college?
    11) never thought about sex for a moment but doesn't balk at being tied up??
    12) she talks about her sex yet says clitoris? fool please.
    13) her daily life doesn't portray her as being as weak as she is.
    14) the subjects of the emails change, unrealistic. people did that in 1996, not in 2011.

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  7. @Rob - the subject line/email thing bothered me, too! Not to mention all the other things technologically backwards for being set in 2011. Also, you met this guy and in 2 weeks manage to accept a cell phone, laptop, and CAR from him? Pssh.

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  8. Before we assume everyone hated this book, did any of you A) Not mind it, or B) Feel a desire to read the second and third installments in this series? Why or why not? -- You should add a third option - Lost all respect for the literate American public.

    Were you able to identify with Anastasia's personality/character? - I think the average reader is supposed to connect with the character on the basis of being somewhat sexually inexperienced, self-conscious, and an average girl caught in the salacious throes of complete lust. We've all been there, sure. And somehow, despite this undeniable bond connecting all of femininity...how can you write something so un-relatable?!? Oh, because you SUCK.

    Did you find Anastasia's backstory realistic, i.e., a twenty-something woman who had never had lustful feelings or sexual experience with another man? -- Sexual experience? Sure. But no lustful feelings?? At this point I'm not even concerned she's a prude...I'm thinking she should have reported this to a medical professional around age 12 when she watched JTT on Home Improvement and DIDN'T have any tingling feelings, "DOWN THERE." I mean let's be serious this does not make her endearingly inexperienced this makes her a fricking malfunctioning droid.

    What did you think about Ana's frequent referrals to her subconscious as "inner goddess"? -- Boner killer.

    Hypothetically speaking, if a real-life Christian Grey wanted to seduce you, would you be down for it, BDSM and all? -- Yes, if played by Johnny Depp or Alexander SkarsgÄrd.

    Although this book claims to have BDSM throughout, most of the sex doesn't center around it at all. Do you think the writer missed the mark on correctly identifying this group of fetishes, or did she simply water it down for bigger mass appeal? -- Realistically, I think she has no experience whatsoever in BDSM beyond HBO late night. It's clear that she is turned on by the idea of it, but still has the psychological need (read: religious guilt) to identify these feelings as an "issue" that is caused by something traumatic such as childhood abuse. God forbid someone just wants to get spanked!

    Do you think Ana's quick backtalk and argumentative nature helped the writer's attempt at making Ana a strong, autonomous heroine, or did it make her seem bratty to you? -- I think her stubborn personality was inconsistent...really?? You will refuse to touch yourself for 22 years but you'll let some girly dude torture you?? No! Yes! No! Yes! Get a grip, ho. If you want to engage in a naughty fetish, stop playing the cheap porn, "Ohhh, no, that's dirty - I could never!...oh ok" role and own up.

    Why do you think this book is so popular, especially amongst the suburban mom demographic? -- Horniness and low standards for satisfying it.

    If you had to sum up this book in one word or phrase, what would it be? -- Embarrassing.

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  9. 1) I personally hated this book. As the owner of this blog, I was tempted to call the whole thing off after reading approximately 10 pages of this drivel. But. I want to stick with the SBC, and in a book club, not every book is guaranteed to be good.

    2) No. In no way did I relate to Anastasia. She is annoying, unrealistic, and she can't obviously stand up for herself.

    3) Nothing about Anastasia was realistic. What normal, college-aged girl has never felt "tingly in her swimsuit area?"

    4) Ana can take her "inner goddess" and her stupid referrals to outdated dance moves and shove them where the sun don't shine.

    5) Probably not. I mean, come on. A contract that includes the words "anal" and "fisting" in the same sentence? I'd be running for the hills.

    6) I am pretty sure this writer is completely out of touch with whatever culture surrounds BDSM. She should have done some more research. People would've still read it.

    7) I think that the writer was trying to write Ana out of the proverbial corner. The eye-rolling, the backtalk. I mean, who gets offended by those types of things? It didn't really make her seem "strong" or "bratty." It was just a lame attempt to try to beef up her character and provide tension between her and Christian.

    8) I am pretty sure that if he were written as a poor and unattractive boy, everyone would've just thought he was a freak. But typically wealthy people with serious quirks are considered more "eccentric" than crazy. So I think this was probably the only way he could've gotten away with what he was doing.

    9) Who knows? It's basically like Twilight except the characters actually have sex.

    10) To borrow from Spinal Tap: SHIT SANDWICH.

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  10. With permission I'm giving up on this piece of crap. I'd use harsher language if it was my blog.
    1) I hated it. I didn't finish it, and I don't care what happens to the characters. I have no desire to read the others. Why? because the characters are so flat. Iron Man has more depth.

    2) No. Obviously, she's a female. Beyond that I've never known anyone this weak and terrible. She is a whiny little brat.

    3) Twenty something virgin, I can believe. twenty something that has never had a sexual fleeting moment let alone thought is completely unrealistic.

    4) Inner Goddess can go take a flying pirouette leap off a cliff. And she has a subconscious she talks about. And she has an inner Ray. How many inners are in her? this is just an easy way for a terrible author to attempt to show internal struggle. it just comes off as miserable crap to read.

    5) No. sorry, I like being able to use my hands. And I believe ladies like me to use my hands so there is no way in hell anyone is tying me up. Also, if you try to beat me, see ya.

    6) After 277 pages I have yet to arrive at any BDSM.

    7) I probably didn't get to this part. I think she is just a weak B that needs to go away.

    8) It wouldn't have happened. The story centers around him being wealthy. and as others have said, that's what makes it "ok" and him just a poor victim of abuse so it's ok that he beats women, riiiiiiiight.

    9) Suburban moms don't have anything better to do. They like to think they are naughty and daring when they aren't. this makes sitting around eating bonbons drinking wine more entertaining.

    10) I like Shit Sandwich. Crap. Kindling. Vomit on paper.

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  11. @Rob: I've never met you, but you are hilarious. Thanks for being such a good sport and getting through 277 pages of this crap. A real man is up for reading some smut- and knowing when to stop due to bad writing.

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  12. i feel like this book doesn't warrant a lengthy discussion. i'll say that i'm glad, lauren & rob, that i'm not the only one that thought it sucked a big one.

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  13. Wow! I just started reading this book and I have to admit that I have found myself enjoying it...but maybe it's because I'm a suburban wife & mom of 3 whose horny and has a low standard for satisfying my horniness (as one poster put it). I think you guys are being way to hard on this book...it's not suppose to be a literary masterpiece...it's erotica.

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  14. @Anon 7:35, but it isn't that erotic.

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  15. @Rob, I will admit that I have never read erotica or any of those romance novels, so, I actually have nothing to compare this book to...I do like the buildup and the flirting that's going on between Ana & Christian...which is why I'm looking forward to the sex stuff. Lol.

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  16. @Anon 9:37 - I can see why this book would be a tempting read for someone new to the world of erotica: it's a best-seller and everyone's talking about it, thus making it more socially acceptable.

    I guess my comment is, don't we deserve better? Better writing, better characters, more believable human interactions- no matter how far-fetched the story line is? How about a plot that doesn't, for once, involve an innocent girl getting overpowered/dominated by a wealthy, older man? Don't get me wrong, most women do want to be dominated in a sexual way to some extent, but to take it to the level of controlling her entire life?

    We, as consumers, control what publishers put out based on our purchases. There's got to be better erotica out there with strong female characters, and yet this is the one book that's sold millions of copies. What does that say about us?

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  17. Before we assume everyone hated this book, did any of you A) Not mind it, or B) Feel a desire to read the second and third installments in this series? Why or why not?
    I didnt mind it and I read all 3 of the books. That said, I was heavily pregnant and restless and looking for something to vaguely occupy my brain whilst waiting for an overdue baby, but not something that took too much brainpower. 

    Were you able to identify with Anastasia's personality/character? Why or why not?
    No. Although I found her easier to 'understand' once I discovered the book was written as twilight fan fiction. She is not a character the author has developed, merely a parody of another undeveloped character someone else thought up. 

    Did you find Anastasia's backstory realistic, i.e., a twenty-something woman who had never had lustful feelings or sexual experience with another man?
    I guess there must be people like that, but I didn't find it hugely realistic. Maybe no sexual experience but no lustful feelings seems a bit far fetched. 

    What did you think about Ana's frequent referrals to her subconscious and "inner goddess"?
    I found them irritating. I assume that they were an attempt at a 'literary' device to explore Ana's character. It failed miserably. 

    Hypothetically speaking, if a real-life Christian Grey (or Christina Grey for you lady lovers) wanted to seduce you, would you be down for it, BDSM and all?
    If he really looked like he is described I'd at least consider it :)

    Although this book claims to have BDSM throughout, most of the sex doesn't center around it at all. Do you think the writer missed the mark on correctly identifying this group of fetishes, or did she simply water it down for bigger mass appeal?
    I thought the sex was quite disappointing. I don't know much about full on BDSM but I would have thought that this book was an unrealistic portrayal of such a relationship. I didnt find the descriptions particularly erotic and it really seemed the author either didn't know what she was talking about, or wished it to appear that she was unfamiliar. 

    Do you think Ana's quick backtalk and argumentative nature helped the writer's attempt at making Ana a strong, autonomous heroine, or did it make her seem bratty to you?
    She just reminded me of Bella. I didnt feel the author developed her beyond Bella. 

    How do you feel the story would have changed if Christian and his family weren't so fabulously wealthy? Would readers have accepted his fetishes as readily?
    I felt that the author wanted Ana to appear compelled to have a relationship with him. She couldn't use the Edward vampire destined to be with each other, but she needed something to base the hook on, so she chose wealthy as something that a college student would be seduced and interested by. I don't think the fetish angle is tied to wealthy but it does make it easier to carry out that kind of lifestyle. 

    Why do you think this book is so popular, especially amongst the suburban mom demographic?
    Acceptable to read so called erotica. It isn't actually erotic though, but that is only apparent part way into the book.  It's available on iPad or kindle so easy to access, easy to read and if you are at home with a baby, a nice daydream that Christian might exist. 

    If you had to sum up this book in one word or phrase, what would it be?
    Shit.

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  18. @anon and @maria I really don't see why erotica and literary masterpieces should be seen as mutually exclusive. And yet, it would seem that we as consumers accept that they are.

    I enjoy reading erotica but I am always searching for something well written with a strong female character. I've yet to find it though. Maybe I need to try writing it myself :)

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  19. Only reading because bookclub book. He just happens to be gorgeous and rich with issues, she just happens to be gorgeous, naive but oh so ready for kink and can orgasm at will and do it 6 times a day like he can just happen to get it up at will that often?? Guys at my spouse's work want their wives to read it to spice things up!! I said guys need to read it as at least it may teach some couples the importance of touching, anticipating, risk taking and mutual satisfaction. Other than that it's Sophie Kinsella Kink. Fluff but then maybe that's all it is meant to be...

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  20. 1.B) Feel a desire to read the second and third installments in this series? I have a desire to read the other ones to see where the story and characters go. What’s the point of introducing Ethan, Jose or really Kate for that matter if they have such small parts in the book. Hoping to see more of them with the additional installments.

    2.Nope – I have no understanding of how a woman of her intelligence (GPA) has not had a moment of lust or sheer butterflies for anyone. Not to mention – that much sex in such a short period of time…unbelievable that her inner goddess wasn’t talking more about the soreness and less about doing a dance. No way that someone can have that much sex, with that little experience and exercise and still able to even conjure the notions of dancing.

    3.As someone who had her first crush on the first day of kindergarten, this is impossible for me to understand.

    4.Lame.

    5.The seduction, yes. The regaled confidence, to a point. The whips, fisting, etc – not so much.

    6.I felt like BDSM was going to be a large as the character and was left with shrugging my shoulders with an “ehh”. I think I was expecting much more development of the storyline with this and less of Grey changing in such a short time. I feel like the author chickened out on writing about the BDSM to meet the suburban Moms audience. It’s just enough to handle, but not enough to be accurate.

    7.Annoying and too conflicting with her personality.

    8.Wealth makes things acceptable, especially when described with lavish fixtures. She would have run for the hills if we were talking about some basement with a folding table, zip ties and tree switches.

    9.The lack of sexual angst and excitement. Agree with Naurnie that this is Twilight with sex.

    10.Blue balls - expected one thing and left with nothing.

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  21. 1. To say I loved the book would be an understatement. I was obssessed from the first one and read and the second immediately after. I couldn't find the third and ran around like a mad woman until I got it. Loved them all! I hear that Ian Somerhalder is up for the Christian character and think he would be perfect and will be disappointed if he is not.
    2. I could relate to Ana's character totally. I found a lot of myself in her. I married young and a man who wanted to dominate me (not quite like Christian but, close enough that it brought back painful memories).
    3. Her back story was a little odd. Being 21 and a virgin I can believe but, never lusted over anyone?
    4. I found the "inner goddess" added some humour to the story every now and then.
    5. If a real life Christian Grey wanted to seduce me....I would have a lot more hard limits than Ana did but, I would go for it.
    6. I think the author probably wanted to appeal to a mass market. I thought it would be much worse when I first heard of the book...when I read it I didn't think anything was extreme? I didn't understand what all the fuss was about.
    7. I don't think it made her bratty but, it didn't really make seem strong either. She seemed confused and at a loss often.
    8. I think the fact that he was so wealthy made it all more acceptable. I think his extreme wealth just added more and more to his appeal. His extreme wealth was unrealistic to me but, entertaining to read.
    9. I think there was a lot of hype over the sexual content and people might have been curious. Moms need an escape from every day life and this was pure fantasy for them.
    10. Hmmmm

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  22. Before we assume everyone hated this book, did any of you A) Not mind it, or B) Feel a desire to read the second and third installments in this series? Why or why not?
    I HATED this book! I read it because of all the hype and my friends that never read novels were whipping through the series in a matter of days. I figured it would be a quick, easy & interesting read. It was mindless, poorly written and aggrevating to the point that I never finished the 1st novel and even deleted it from my Kobo.

    Were you able to identify with Anastasia's personality/character? Why or why not?
    She had no personality. She was well-read, intelligent and educated. She could turn down dates with Jose and Paul, but couldn't look into Christian's eyes without melting. She was inconsistent, immature and annoying!

    Did you find Anastasia's backstory realistic, i.e., a twenty-something woman who had never had lustful feelings or sexual experience with another man?
    Not at all! The virgin at 21, totally believable. Never touched herself, barely kissed anyone, no lustful feelings? That's ridiculous.

    What did you think about Ana's frequent referrals to her subconscious and "inner goddess"?
    Annoying, inconsistent and stupid. Between her self-conscience, her Inner-Ray and her Inner Goddess, it left me confused and frustrated.

    Hypothetically speaking, if a real-life Christian Grey (or Christina Grey for you lady lovers) wanted to seduce you, would you be down for it, BDSM and all?
    No. He is an egotistical, selfish pig. I don't care how good-looking or rich he is. If he wants to manipulate me, he can f#$k off!

    Although this book claims to have BDSM throughout, most of the sex doesn't center around it at all. Do you think the writer missed the mark on correctly identifying this group of fetishes, or did she simply water it down for bigger mass appeal?
    I know nothing about this culture. It seems watered down. I am sure people that a genuinely part of this culture are either insulted or uninterested in the version portrayed in 50 Shades.

    Do you think Ana's quick backtalk and argumentative nature helped the writer's attempt at making Ana a strong, autonomous heroine, or did it make her seem bratty to you?
    It makes her seem whiny and immature. She is obviously not strong or she would be able to stand up to Christian and not be manipulated by him.

    How do you feel the story would have changed if Christian and his family weren't so fabulously wealthy? Would readers have accepted his fetishes as readily?
    As someone else posted, she would have run for the hills if he was an average guy in a basment with cheap impliments. His wealth allows him to behave with a sense of being above the rules.

    Why do you think this book is so popular, especially amongst the suburban mom demographic?
    It is well-hyped and so many women (myself included) begin reading it to see what everyone is talking about. Because of the perceived popularity, I think anyone not enjoying or understanding the book might be afraid to voice an opposing opinion (unlike myself). They don't want to be seen as a prude for not liking it.
    Alternately, many women from this demographich have little to no exposure to erotica that they have no frame of reference with which to compare it.
    Lastly, there are many women that are unsatisfied with aspect(s) of their lives and are intrigued and captivated by the fantasy, sex and passion supposedly portrayed in this series. What I think they don't realize or choose to ignore is the lack of plot, character development or any element of believability. They are not angered or frustrated by the poor writing and weak characters because they are using the book as fuel for their own fantasies.

    If you had to sum up this book in one word or phrase, what would it be?
    50 Shades of Crap, complete waste of time, infuriating, but most of all disappointing.

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  23. Before we assume everyone hated this book, did any of you A) Not mind it, or B) Feel a desire to read the second and third installments in this series? Why or why not? I am in the process of reading the second and while I do agree that it a poorly written novel, I'm curious to know where the two end up!

    Were you able to identify with Anastasia's personality/character? Why or why not? No I couldn't identify with her at all. Virgin, never masturbated, was seemingly shy and innocent but not embarrassed in the least at letting him pull her tampon out and sexing on her period. Also being a virgin and having pounding sex multiple time your first time ...she should have not only been sore but also walking funny lol.

    Did you find Anastasia's backstory realistic, i.e., a twenty-something woman who had never had lustful feelings or sexual experience with another man?it would be more believable had she been saving her virginity until marriage or been extremely unattractive but the never having had lustful feelings...not believable at all I mean those start as a teenager if not a pre-teen.

    What did you think about Ana's frequent referrals to her subconscious and "inner goddess"? Very annoying and over-used as was the over-use of delicious, our, my his, breath hitches, a heady mix, heady cocktail, heady whatever...Oh and wow.

    Hypothetically speaking, if a real-life Christian Grey (or Christina Grey for you lady lovers) wanted to seduce you, would you be down for it, BDSM and all?Most definitely! But I'd have more hard limits than anna...


    Although this book claims to have BDSM throughout, most of the sex doesn't center around it at all. Do you think the writer missed the mark on correctly identifying this group of fetishes, or did she simply water it down for bigger mass appeal? Well since she did the majority of her research online, I'm sure she came across the real BDSM community which isn't as nearly as tame as she writes. I think she may have watered it down to keep some semblance of romance as opposed to a real DOm/sub relationship.


    Do you think Ana's quick backtalk and argumentative nature helped the writer's attempt at making Ana a strong, autonomous heroine, or did it make her seem bratty to you? More bratty than heroic. the "backtalk" wasn't what I would consider backtalk at all.

    How do you feel the story would have changed if Christian and his family weren't so fabulously wealthy? Would readers have accepted his fetishes as readily? I don't think so...Part of his allure is that he is wealthy and good looking and can seemingly have anyone but he chose this inexperienced..mousy type. I mean really..would you be so willing to let the stock boy at Wal-mart spank you?

    Why do you think this book is so popular, especially amongst the suburban mom demographic? I believe it offers fantasy and escapism. Most women secretly fantasize of having their one Christian Grey.


    If you had to sum up this book in one word or phrase, what would it be?
    Can't wait to see what ya'll think. Repetitive !

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  24. I work at a nursing home and these 3 books have us all going crazy! We share them amongst ourselves and can't wait til each other has read them so we can have our own personal discussion of them. We think that they are great and one of my girlfriends is on her third round of reading them! Oh, and I sent the first book to a friend who is incarcerated and he is absolutely going crazy over it as is his cellmates. He wants books two and three. The only thing I really didn't like was that inner goddess nonsense. Who talks like that? I did notice that the more she came to know Christian the less we heard of this inner goddess, so that by the end of book three she is barely mentioned. Other than that us girls her in Massachusetts love them. Thanks for listening!

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  25. This trilogy is shit. I feel embarrassed for anyone who thinks it's good, to be honest. I always think that those people are poorly educated and have extremely low standards.

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  26. Why do bad writers win the fight?
    Why do good writers die in need?
    Because writers who can't write
    Are read by readers who can't read.

    Piet Hein

    That's all I have to say.

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